tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post1936085640258075582..comments2023-11-05T14:49:41.215+02:00Comments on israelity bites: Gaza bleeds under Israeli airstrikesIzzy Beehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02289935006222451301noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-17821769130805776912008-12-30T08:34:00.000+02:002008-12-30T08:34:00.000+02:00For clarity: I have never ever said that the Isra...For clarity: I have never ever said that the Israelis should be chased out of the region by the Arab majority (their neighbors). You must have imagined that I said so, or misread my comments. <BR/><BR/>-CoreyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-22615571788270332352008-12-30T05:19:00.000+02:002008-12-30T05:19:00.000+02:00So now Jews are murderers? See how hate begets rac...So now Jews are murderers? See how hate begets racism? Which Jews are you referring too or are you characterizing all? Did you accuse Assad for being a murderer when he killed 50000 Shites. Did you accuse Saddam Hussein of being a murderer when he gassed Arabs? Do you complain of the heinous acts committed in Saudi Arabia or by the extremists in Darfur where 3 million tribesman have been butchered and countless women have been raped. Where is your anger over these atrocities... strangely silent or is the truth is that the victims were not like you so they were infidels deserving of this fate? To be one of G-d's children you must decry your sins first before all others, but then that would require accountability which apparently AJ is unable to comprehend... may G-D forgive your sins and your hyprocrisy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-24259959400879942072008-12-29T13:24:00.000+02:002008-12-29T13:24:00.000+02:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-10565047345583215232008-12-29T13:16:00.000+02:002008-12-29T13:16:00.000+02:00Wasn't being responsible for the death of the Bee ...Wasn't being responsible for the death of the Bee enough for you Jews!<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uPEF7pdRD0" REL="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uPEF7pdRD0</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-39933569592342680672008-12-29T12:22:00.000+02:002008-12-29T12:22:00.000+02:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-18293350999595853952008-12-29T09:51:00.000+02:002008-12-29T09:51:00.000+02:00typo to most recent blog of 12/29 @ 8:35 am ... it...typo to most recent blog of 12/29 @ 8:35 am ... its federalist 51 not 11Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-62899111187076201372008-12-29T08:35:00.000+02:002008-12-29T08:35:00.000+02:00Corey, Corey Corey I am afraid you have missed the...Corey, Corey Corey I am afraid you have missed the basic point again, 150 million Arabs, 6 million Jews in a state the size of Delaware. You just won't let the Jews have their small homeland you must have everything. You seem to misunderstand M L King too. he would never have insisted that the majority of 150 million get to force out the minority... please look at the fact that the African American has 15% OF THE AMERICAN POPULATION. In the federalist papers Madison and Jefferson warned of the excess of the majority... see Federalist paper 11and I believe 73. Do you want to live in peace or not? If so you have to let Israel be Israel... sorry but history is replete with revised land borders... if you don't want peace then you must recognize that ultimately when the world moves away from oil then the Arabs will lose whatever influence they have had in the greedy world of the Cheney years. At that point the Arabs will lose more than a state the size of Delaware, for at that point with global warming the Arab peninsula becomes a wasteland. But with peace we can work for a global understanding when water is more important than oil and all people's rights are paramount. Including little girls that want the right to marry who they love in Saudi Arabia ( not 8 year olds being forced to marry 58 year old men to erase their dad's debts), and little girls in Afghanistan who want to learn without the threat of acid being thrown in their face. In that world we can all say as the that great Arab writer Khahil Gibran said "so I be written in the book of Love". Please learn the lesson before it is too late. Your brother not your enemy... Salom... Shalom etc etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-48606225698509302112008-12-29T05:06:00.000+02:002008-12-29T05:06:00.000+02:00I'm confused by what was meant when she said: "the...I'm confused by what was meant when she said: "they -actually all of us- would gladly have Hamas sign off every last basic right we've been calling for the last few months forever if it could have stopped this from ever having happened."<BR/><BR/>This is happening <I>because</I> of Hamas. Israel isn't attacking the West Bank. Hamas brought this on the Gazans. Why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-28050770794930437812008-12-29T03:53:00.000+02:002008-12-29T03:53:00.000+02:00A nation-- a peopole--whtever.Israel is a bloody b...A nation-- a peopole--whtever.<BR/>Israel is a bloody bully. ANd hypocriteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-36030333942853508512008-12-29T03:40:00.000+02:002008-12-29T03:40:00.000+02:00To the Anonymous Poster at 11:54 p.m.: I failed ...To the Anonymous Poster at 11:54 p.m.: <BR/><BR/>I failed to neglect that more Arabs are being killed by Arabs, than Israelis? Is that what we are talking about here? I thought we we're talking about the attacks on Gaza. If you mean the conflict between Fatah and Hamas, that is one thing between the Palestinians themselves. I actually am not surprised that the Palestinian leadership didn't fracture even earlier than it did, given the Israeli oppression they are under. Sooner or later oppressed populations turn on themselves: Divide and Conquer it is called, here in America. Actually I have read the plans Clinton proposed at the Camp David meetings in 2000, so don't talk to me about what I know or don't know. Any objective reading of that plans shows that far more concessions were expected of the Palestinians, than of the Israelis. Of course, given the power of AIPAC here in America, that was to be expected. Go and read again, this time read the actual plan and not the AIPAC summary of it. <BR/><BR/>You said "every action you speak of is a reaction to a terrorist attack." Did it ever occur to you that maybe that every "terrorist" attack against Israel is a reaction to its illegal occupation?. Even the U.N. acknowledges the illegality of Israeli actions, but thanks to America, there is no one to force Israel to comply with the law. And what do you mean by "your leadership has failed you"? If you are talking about President Bush, yes, he has failed me and all other Americans. Don't you even talk any further about Dr. King and what he stood for. You may have his speeches memorized but unfortunately you do not understand the meaning of his words. And that is my final comment. <BR/><BR/>- CoreyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-15632575577168950742008-12-29T02:57:00.000+02:002008-12-29T02:57:00.000+02:00.For EVERY missile shot into Israel at least ONE m....<BR/>For EVERY missile shot into Israel at least ONE missile should be returned to the area as <BR/>close as possible to the shooter. Tit for tat. Every single missile should be returned. <BR/>Period. Treat them like adults, if they kill, they will be killed. That is the only way <BR/>they will learn. Screw public opinion, force them to see the truth, or let them be damned.<BR/>.<BR/>absurd thought -<BR/>God of the Universe says<BR/>hope your kids grow up<BR/><BR/>to strap bombs on babies<BR/>to kill other children<BR/><BR/>.<BR/>absurd thought -<BR/>God of the Universe says<BR/>form a terrorist country<BR/><BR/>then wish to be destroyed<BR/>by committing acts of war<BR/><BR/>.<BR/>absurd thought -<BR/>God of the Universe says<BR/>blame your failings on the Jews<BR/><BR/>for a few more thousand years<BR/>they are Earth's scapegoats<BR/><BR/>.<BR/>absurd thought -<BR/>God of the Universe says<BR/>give Israel away<BR/><BR/>to appease her enemies<BR/>dishonor America<BR/>.<BR/>All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech, then there can be no real freedom.<BR/>.<BR/><A HREF="http://www.libertarian.to/images/animation/PhilosophyOfLiberty-english.swf" REL="nofollow">Philosophy of Liberty Cartoon</A><BR/>.<BR/><A HREF="http://haltterrorism.com" REL="nofollow">Help Stop Terrorism Today!</A><BR/>.<BR/><A HREF="http://www.lulu.com/content/2457373" REL="nofollow">USpace</A><BR/><BR/>:)<BR/>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-60076269127746076232008-12-29T02:42:00.000+02:002008-12-29T02:42:00.000+02:00Which Jewish reporters by name are you referring t...Which Jewish reporters by name are you referring to... You are simply expressing the same hatred. Israel is the size of Delaware. Palestine was never established as a nation. Rome renamed Judea and essentially it remained a part of the Ottoman empire until the Balfour mandate. If ever the land was taken it was from the ancient Hebrews, but that misses the larger point that for there to be peace the Arabs must accept Israel's right to exist w/o the requirement of an absurd right of return. W/o that fundamental understanding there will be no peace and only hardship for the Palestinians, the majority of whom would gladly agree to peace and live side to side. Its the hatred from the militants that want to keep the pot boiling and its sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-79805604648824962192008-12-29T02:41:00.000+02:002008-12-29T02:41:00.000+02:00This whole thing really reminds me of two children...This whole thing really reminds me of two children fighting. This group hates that group. They started it first. Each side trying to play the victim, while hurting the other. Israel has let this problem fester, and created it's own mess. Hamas is firing rockets to kill innocent civilians to provoke something. You have hot headed religious killers (Hamas) and cold blooded calculated killers (Israeli's). Well, until both figure out this isn't the way to live in fear, misery, and blood-you will be caught in perpetual hell. It might help if both sides started respecting the lives of others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-23985820121227901822008-12-29T02:37:00.000+02:002008-12-29T02:37:00.000+02:00It was just before noon when I heard the first exp...It was just before noon when I heard the first explosion. I rushed to my window, barely did I get there and look out when I was pushed back by the force and air pressure of another explosion. For a few moments I didn't understand, then I realized that Israeli promises of a wide-scale offensive against the Gaza Strip had materialized. Israeli Foreign Minister, Tzpi Livni's statements following a meeting with Egyptian President Hussni Mubarak the day before yesterday had not been empty threats after all.<BR/><BR/>What followed seems pretty much surreal at this point. <BR/>6 locations were hit during the first air raid on Gaza city.<BR/><BR/>What did Olmert mean when he stated that WE the people of Gaza weren't the enemy, that it was Hamas and the Islamic Jihad who were being targeted? Was that statement made to infuriate us out of out state of shock, to pacify any feelings of rage and revenge? To mock us?? Were the scores of children on their way home from school and who are now among the dead and the injured Hamas militants? <BR/><BR/>The streets are strewn with their bodies, their arms, legs, feet, some with shoes and some without. The city is in a state of alarm, panic and confusion, cell phones aren't working, hospitals and morgues are backed up and some of the dead are still lying in the streets<BR/>And even after the dead are identified, doctors are having a hard time gathering the right body parts in order to hand them over to their families. The hospital hallways look like a slaughterhouse. It's truly worse than any horror movie you could ever imagine. The floor is filled with blood, the injured are propped up against the walls or laid down on the floor side by side with the dead. Doctors are working frantically and people with injuries that aren't life threatening are sent home. A relative of mine was injured by a flying piece of glass from her living room window, she had deep cut right down the middle of her face. She was sent home, too many people needed medical attention more urgently. Her husband, a dentist, took her to his clinic and sewed up her face using local anesthesia<BR/><BR/>We can rest easy, Gazans can mourn tonight. Israel is said to have promised not to wage any more air raids for now. People suspect that the next step will be targeted killings, which will inevitably means scores more of innocent bystanders whose fate has already been sealed.<BR/><BR/>It's almost 3 in the morning and the killing continuesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-29852711380667220602008-12-29T02:28:00.000+02:002008-12-29T02:28:00.000+02:00no2warsI've been looking over your blog and while ...no2wars<BR/><BR/>I've been looking over your blog and while I admire that you are trying to tell the other side of the story but my first question for you is on this blog you said Israel was the fourth largest nuclear power in the world. Where did you get that information? As far as I know Israel has never admitted to having Nuclear weapons (nor have they denied it). <BR/><BR/>Secondly, on your blog you made mention of the Egyptians refusing to open up their border in Gaza. Why is that not a bigger issue? <BR/><BR/>That's all for now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-70056745778541582292008-12-29T02:15:00.000+02:002008-12-29T02:15:00.000+02:00I see some people saying " the right of the Jewish...I see some people saying " the right of the Jewish people to have their own homeland" well what about the Palestinians' right not to be caged in and their land stolen? Many of the Jewish people who live their, their families came from Europe after WWII, now for some reason the Europeans weren't ready to give up some of their land to the Jews, so they took another people's land and expected everything to be alright. If anyone notices, especially the AP and cable news, they only have Jewish reporters reporting on this conflict, now I call that a conflict of interest. There is nothing wrong with Jewish people, but there is a problem with Israel. They are not special and don't deserve our (the united States) money or attention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-89160511455189168062008-12-29T02:12:00.000+02:002008-12-29T02:12:00.000+02:00Massive failure of diplomacy and vision is demonst...Massive failure of diplomacy and vision is demonstrated by this airstrike and pending invasion, ms. anonymous<BR/>The lull was officially over, and Israel did not keep its part of the bargain.The siefe stayed in place. So the usual resumed. The Hamas leadership had kept missiles down, and no longer does. <BR/>It's politics as usual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-46813951681668940402008-12-29T02:07:00.000+02:002008-12-29T02:07:00.000+02:00To PeijinSafa sent me her message early on by emai...To Peijin<BR/>Safa sent me her message early on by email, but sadly is out of contact now. Cell phone is out, too. Where is the neighborhood where your friend lives? The Islamic University was practically obliterated around midnight with numerous airstrikes, I learned, but few people were still there.<BR/><BR/>This is not pinpoint targetted killings.Izzy Beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02289935006222451301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-29517138467060650982008-12-29T01:46:00.000+02:002008-12-29T01:46:00.000+02:00Hamas has adopted an impossible posture - They con...Hamas has adopted an impossible posture - They control a territory that depends on Israel for power, water, and food - they tear up every agreement and refuse to negotiate new ones. They leave no room for negotiation, no possiblity of co-existence, rather ally with Iran and declare their intention to kill Israelis and destroy their country. And yet they complain that Israel is 'unfair' to blockade them, and feel they have a god given right to fire missiles randomly into southern Israel. I fell terrible for the state of the people in Gaza, but I don't know what else Israel is supposed to do when Hamas is bombarding southern Israel. I saw someone blame Israel because they wouldn't renegotiate the truce - at least they agreed to a new one. What compromises has Hamas been willing to make - ever, on any issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-42635970883959999412008-12-29T00:48:00.000+02:002008-12-29T00:48:00.000+02:00Barak delivers his Christmas gift to Barack.Barak delivers his Christmas gift to Barack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-25653968057890709762008-12-29T00:44:00.000+02:002008-12-29T00:44:00.000+02:00As I read this it makes me very sad, I am talking ...As I read this it makes me very sad, I am talking about the original post. At the same time I dont quite understand some of the comments and feelings. Can you name any other country that would gave missles fires at their citizens and not do anyting about it? I just dont understand how else to see these actions. Is it wrong that innocent children and poeple are dying, you would have to be an animal to think it is not. But at the same time how else can Israel respond? Should they sit back and let Hamas launch rockets? I might be naive, and this is just my humble opinion. What else can Israel do? How do these people feel when the suicide bombers kill inocent people in Israel? Do they condem it, or say another jew dead is a good day? The images are horrible as well as the stories of what is going on in Gaza, and I would be the first person to want to see this end. The is only one question I ask what can Israel do? Keep letting Hamas fire rockets out of hospitals, and usiing their own people as sheilds. When will the Palestinian people hold Hamas acountable. Enough is enough untill both sides look at themselves, this will never end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-350834138672195722008-12-29T00:39:00.000+02:002008-12-29T00:39:00.000+02:00Is Safa's account from a blog or email? IS there s...Is Safa's account from a blog or email? IS there some way to reach her? I have a friend in Gaza City that i have not been able to reach; I was hoping there might be chance that she knows or has heard of him and his family. I doubt he is going to be checking email now and the phones are still dead?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09640313164503312296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-40393710322723250482008-12-28T23:54:00.000+02:002008-12-28T23:54:00.000+02:00Corey, you failed to respond to the fact that Arab...Corey, you failed to respond to the fact that Arabs have killed more Arabs than Israelis. Israel gave up Gaza. Nassar would not. Did you accuse Egypt of an illegal occupation... no. What about Transjordan occupying the west bank... did you accuse it (now Jordan) of an occupation... no. Israel is the size of Delaware facing 150 million Arabs yet you act that this country of 6 million is the perpetrator, when in fact it has tried for peace. As to the accords no, I am talking about the offer on the table when Bill Clinton's term was coming to the end. that offer included a right of East Jerasulem as a capital Arafat would not accept reparations guaranteed by the USA but wanted a return of the 600000 Palestenians and their descendents into the heart of Israel, some 3 million people. In other words to obtain an invasion which he could not get by violence. Why would Israels accept such an absurd demand. Really it amazes me the lack of back ground you have. As to M L King he would have opposed the Palestinian violence which has unfortunately beget the reaction from Israel. Every action you speak of was reaction to a terrorist attack. Martin talked of dining together at the table of brotherhood... where has the Palestinian leadership ever offered that potential. It trains the children to hate not love. Don't talk to me about Martin I know his speaches by heart... while he would call for the end of violence he would have viewed Arafat as what he was... a corrupt thief who stole from his people... his wife lives in utter luxury in Paris at a villa bought by Palestinian money. Your leadership has failed you. Take some time read about what was offered at Camp David, you obviously don't know. Lastly,remember Netanya and the explosion at the Park Hotel that killed 80 women and children? Yet the Israeli bombing has killed 9 women and 16 children. Neither is right but you talk disproportion...please... what was hit were security strong holds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-89843562873119985342008-12-28T22:36:00.000+02:002008-12-28T22:36:00.000+02:00I would like to ask a question with the understand...I would like to ask a question with the understanding that it may offend, so I apologize in advance. I would like to know what responses would have been appropriate to the missile attacks against Israel that originated from Gaza. It seems that Israel was placed in a "no-win" situation - fail to respond, and it invites more attacks from other enemies. Respond, and we have what we have today. Was there a "measured" response possible? Or is this evidence of a massive failure of diplomacy?<BR/><BR/>Again, my intention is not to offend, but to learn, thank you for your insights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1614702577266360928.post-91408808349162568852008-12-28T20:51:00.000+02:002008-12-28T20:51:00.000+02:00Happy Hannukah.The IDF is really more an occupatio...Happy Hannukah.<BR/>The IDF is really more an occupational force than for defence. The whole nation is behind their push into Gaza (the Israelis had beaten their chests for over a month, had an incursion to crush a tunnel, kept the journalists out, refused to renegotiate the lull and would not lift the seige. So eventually Barak, their defence guy,got spooked because one of the longrange Katyusha rockets was fired and killed a 30 yr old ISraeli man 12 miles north of the Gaza Strip.) SHudder. This is the ratio an Israeli man is worth more than 200 Palestinian lives. SOme of it is posturing. The whole thing is monstrous. and predictableAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com